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wvfirefighter-emt · 08-20-2008, 08:51 PM

I recently installed a set of mudlite XTR's (27x9x14, 27x12x14). After the installation I noticed a small amount of jerking and a small amount of squeeling when I take off in high range. Anyone else have this issue? The belt has always made a little bit of noise (every now and then) when I take off in high range. I have about 13 hrs and 80 miles. I talked to my dealer and they said that the CVT belt or adjusting the belt is not under warranty. That really sucks!!! Would I benefit getting as much life as possible out of this belt, then switch to an aftermarket clutch kit with a severe duty belt? Anyone have any experience with an aftermarket clutch kit? Any suggestions?????

dieselpowered · 08-20-2008, 09:11 PM

Well my friend, likely your belt is out of spec, maybe take the time to check the belt deflection.

In talking with others, I have been told that the stock belt is the best one out there. Dalton Industries (who provided us with our clutch kit) are on this site, his member name is Helix. Talk to him some as that is what he specializes in and see what ideas he has. He is a great guy and will be happy to answer any questions you have!

helix · 08-21-2008, 06:15 AM

For sure the stock belt is the best one,we have done tons of testing from aftermarket suppliers of belt.In the world of snowmobiles,we actually sell and reccomend some of them,...but NOT on Kawasaki and Can AM atv's..period. The ones from the factory on these models,though very expensive are FAR superior to aftermarket ones.

Setting your belt deflection isn't as bad as some people think,..it is a bit of nuisance in a teryx model because you have more seats,tank to remove,..but really not that bad. Setting deflection would be necessary even if you put a new belt probably,as they are a bit too loose from factory.

It would also be a good time to installl that clutch kit,if it was your original intention too. Here is a link to our Dalton kit for the model

Dalton Industries: ATV Clutch Kits

With the kit installed,it not only offers better acceleration and backshift characteristics,..it gets rid of the jerkiness completely,as it engages the belt smoother and more positively.

and here is the link to the billet overdrive cover if you are interested as well.
Dalton Industries: Clutch Covers
This Billet cover is built and designed for the overdrive releif..not a modified stock thin cast peice.

Magellan · 08-21-2008, 06:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by helix

For sure the stock belt is the best one,we have done tons of testing from aftermarket suppliers of belt.In the world of snowmobiles,we actually sell and reccomend some of them,...but NOT on Kawasaki and Can AM atv's..period. The ones from the factory on these models,though very expensive are FAR superior to aftermarket ones.

Setting your belt deflection isn't as bad as some people think,..it is a bit of nuisance in a teryx model because you have more seats,tank to remove,..but really not that bad. Setting deflection would be necessary even if you put a new belt probably,as they are a bit too loose from factory.

It would also be a good time to installl that clutch kit,if it was your original intention too. Here is a link to our Dalton kit for the model

Dalton Industries: ATV Clutch Kits

With the kit installed,it not only offers better acceleration and backshift characteristics,..it gets rid of the jerkiness completely,as it engages the belt smoother and more positively.

and here is the link to the billet overdrive cover if you are interested as well.
Dalton Industries: Clutch Covers
This Billet cover is built and designed for the overdrive releif..not a modified stock thin cast peice.

OK, I am seriously considering installing your clutch kit. I am tired of the jerkiness and on belt #2 after 150 miles. I do a lot of crawling around in the woods, and need the engine braking as well. Is the clutch kit for me?

Also, you are right, adjusting the belt is very easy. Installing my power steering or the Muzzy's system were much more difficult. Air ratchet is definitely a time saver for getting to the belt and an impact gun makes taking off the drive and driven pulleys a snap.

Thank you in advance for your clutch kit information, I will definitely go that route if the crawling around is not affected.

helix · 08-21-2008, 11:42 AM

For crawling around it is fine. There are optional engagement springs in the kit,but even the lower of the two is a bit higher than stock,I'm sure you will be fine with that ...the engagement is slightly higher,but it is part of the control of the flyweight action..this kit was designed to work together.

The engine brake is not effected by the clutch kit,..but the overdrive cover has no kebc bearing and requires disabling of the engine brake.

..but you know ,actually,the engine braking of this machine is done with the belt system at all speeds except VERY low speeds when the servo motor kicks in...that is the only part of the engine braking you would lose with the overdrive cover. When you really think about it....how much do you need engine brake at VERY low speed?..Personally I prefer to control braking a very low speeds myself.
This is probably so many racers in the GNCC with Brute Force ATV's disable the engine brake system....it is constantly throwing them over the handlebars at low speeds when they least expect it.

...but the clutch kit itself doesn't effect the servo motor system,only the overdrive cover.

This kit is expensive sounding,and it is our most expensive,...but when you consider that it is one clutch kit that is like having ten different kits in one ,along with a set-up instruction manual that will show you adjustments for all tire sizes and big bores,etc for future..it is not so bad.

Let alone the fact that it is much cheaper than buying all those expensive belts like you are currently doing.

wvfirefighter-emt · 08-23-2008, 11:05 AM

Today I put my stock tires and wheels back on. I only notice a small amount of jerking when I take off in high range. Seems alot better than with the 27" mudlites. So what should I do, have my belt tightened or should I go for the clutch kit with a new belt?

Hunterworks · 08-25-2008, 07:17 AM

It sounds like you simply need a belt adjustment but if you are going in that far the Dalton kit is great I hear!!

08-20-2008, 08:51 PM	#1 (permalink)
wvfirefighter-emt Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Mt. Storm, WV Posts: 7	CVT Belt Issues I recently installed a set of mudlite XTR's (27x9x14, 27x12x14). After the installation I noticed a small amount of jerking and a small amount of squeeling when I take off in high range. Anyone else have this issue? The belt has always made a little bit of noise (every now and then) when I take off in high range. I have about 13 hrs and 80 miles. I talked to my dealer and they said that the CVT belt or adjusting the belt is not under warranty. That really sucks!!! Would I benefit getting as much life as possible out of this belt, then switch to an aftermarket clutch kit with a severe duty belt? Anyone have any experience with an aftermarket clutch kit? Any suggestions?????

08-20-2008, 09:11 PM	#2 (permalink)
dieselpowered www.TeryxHQ.com Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Peoria, AZ Posts: 2,042	Well my friend, likely your belt is out of spec, maybe take the time to check the belt deflection. In talking with others, I have been told that the stock belt is the best one out there. Dalton Industries (who provided us with our clutch kit) are on this site, his member name is Helix. Talk to him some as that is what he specializes in and see what ideas he has. He is a great guy and will be happy to answer any questions you have! __________________ www.RhinoTalk.net www.TeryxHQ.com 2008 Kawasaki Teryx \| 840cc BBK w/ stage III cams \| FST long travel and HD steering \| Twisted Stitch seats \| MSHQ cage \| Muzzys dual exhaust \| Dynatek CDI \| aFe intake \| HiPer carbon fiber beadlocks \| Goodyear MT/Rs \| Crow restraints \| Livewire LED whip \| NightOwl HID conversion \| 40" Edge Series LED lightbar \| Fuego Dual HID Lights \| Dalton clutch kit \| Full audio \| Navigation \| Lightened and machined clutch \| Power Steering \| TrailTech Vapor Computer \| More to come...

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Hunterworks TeryxHQ.com Site Sponsor Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 515	It sounds like you simply need a belt adjustment but if you are going in that far the Dalton kit is great I hear!! __________________ www.hunterworks.com www.3stepatvtires.com

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08-21-2008, 06:15 AM	#3 (permalink)
helix Build Sponsor Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 53	For sure the stock belt is the best one,we have done tons of testing from aftermarket suppliers of belt.In the world of snowmobiles,we actually sell and reccomend some of them,...but NOT on Kawasaki and Can AM atv's..period. The ones from the factory on these models,though very expensive are FAR superior to aftermarket ones. Setting your belt deflection isn't as bad as some people think,..it is a bit of nuisance in a teryx model because you have more seats,tank to remove,..but really not that bad. Setting deflection would be necessary even if you put a new belt probably,as they are a bit too loose from factory. It would also be a good time to installl that clutch kit,if it was your original intention too. Here is a link to our Dalton kit for the model Dalton Industries: ATV Clutch Kits With the kit installed,it not only offers better acceleration and backshift characteristics,..it gets rid of the jerkiness completely,as it engages the belt smoother and more positively. and here is the link to the billet overdrive cover if you are interested as well. Dalton Industries: Clutch Covers This Billet cover is built and designed for the overdrive releif..not a modified stock thin cast peice.

08-21-2008, 11:42 AM	#5 (permalink)
helix Build Sponsor Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 53	For crawling around it is fine. There are optional engagement springs in the kit,but even the lower of the two is a bit higher than stock,I'm sure you will be fine with that ...the engagement is slightly higher,but it is part of the control of the flyweight action..this kit was designed to work together. The engine brake is not effected by the clutch kit,..but the overdrive cover has no kebc bearing and requires disabling of the engine brake. ..but you know ,actually,the engine braking of this machine is done with the belt system at all speeds except VERY low speeds when the servo motor kicks in...that is the only part of the engine braking you would lose with the overdrive cover. When you really think about it....how much do you need engine brake at VERY low speed?..Personally I prefer to control braking a very low speeds myself. This is probably so many racers in the GNCC with Brute Force ATV's disable the engine brake system....it is constantly throwing them over the handlebars at low speeds when they least expect it. ...but the clutch kit itself doesn't effect the servo motor system,only the overdrive cover. This kit is expensive sounding,and it is our most expensive,...but when you consider that it is one clutch kit that is like having ten different kits in one ,along with a set-up instruction manual that will show you adjustments for all tire sizes and big bores,etc for future..it is not so bad. Let alone the fact that it is much cheaper than buying all those expensive belts like you are currently doing.

08-23-2008, 11:05 AM	#6 (permalink)
wvfirefighter-emt Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Mt. Storm, WV Posts: 7	Today I put my stock tires and wheels back on. I only notice a small amount of jerking when I take off in high range. Seems alot better than with the 27" mudlites. So what should I do, have my belt tightened or should I go for the clutch kit with a new belt?