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08 teryx problems please help

just bought 08 with 65 hrs and unit wont start when its 50 degrees or colder out so took air filter of and found carbs full of dirty gunk like air filter not sealing and was wondering what compression should be on these units this unit is 100 % stock i tried removing spark arrester and still wouldnt start any ideas
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Lets start with the simple...are you getting a spark?

When you say gunk...do you mean like leaves and trees and mud or what?




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yes have spark it will start if i put space heater on it and the gunk was like the air filter wasent sealing and it sucked it dirt thats why wanting to know what comp should be
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Dude, gonna have to have some more info of what is going on here, if your telling us that it only starts at 50 degrees or warmer...you have some serious warpage going on somewhere in the engine (just guessing from your description) Have you tried charging the battery? Removing the spark arrestor? Don't see how that would help? I say something is wrong to begin with..it ran when you bought it...right?...what all did you do after you bought it...did you drive it at all? Give us some more info and hopefully we can help you out!
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the guy bought from also had hell of time getting started when cold runs good when warm and starts good also does anyone know what compression should be
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Compression range should be between 36-66 psi when cranking, if everything is stock...I would hope you're more around the 60psi. Can you tell if the the choke is working ok?
If air filter is letting dirt get in your carbs...then I would say your oil viscosity has changed also...depending on how long this problem has been...just taking stabs in the dark here.

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valves are out of adjustment,check them!

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I would say valves too. Just had the exact same problem with mine. Get them adjusted and I bet you will be just fine. For a quick check pull your plugs and hold your finger over the plug hole (extreme backyard mechanicing), if it wont blow past your finger the valves are out of adjustment. My compression gauge doesnt have an adapter for that small of a plug and Snap On hasnt gotten me one yet so I couldnt pull a comp check. As for the dirt, make sure the the air filter is sealing (I use Bel Ray grease on the foam ring for extra insurance) and clean the carbs out. If its not smoking you should be alright. These are tough motors and can take some abuse, just ask my Prairie

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Compression range should be between 36-66 psi when cranking, if everything is stock...I would hope you're more around the 60psi. Can you tell if the the choke is working ok?
If air filter is letting dirt get in your carbs...then I would say your oil viscosity has changed also...depending on how long this problem has been...just taking stabs in the dark here.
Just a question, shouldn't this motor have alot more than 60 psi compression? I would have thought well over 100psi unless valves are way out of adjustment or it has an exhaust decompressioner on it??? Just wondering. My guess would be valves also or fuel pump bad if fuel tank is dirty - maybe dump the old fuel out and start fresh! Good luck.

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5-28 ENGINE TOP END
Cylinder Head
Cylinder Compression Measurement
NOTE
○Use the battery which is fully charged.
•Warm up the engine thoroughly, and stop the engine. •Remove the spark plug (see Spark Plug Removal in the
Electrical System chapter). •Attach the compression gauge [A] and adapter [B] firmly
into the spark plug hole.
Special Tools - Compression Gauge, 20 kgf/cm²: 57001-221
Compression Gauge Adapter, M10 × 1.0:
57001-1458
•Hold the throttle wide open and crank the engine with the
electric starter or the recoil starter several times.
When the gauge stops rising, stop cranking and read the
gauge.
Cylinder Compression (Usable Range)
Electric Starter: 251 ∼ 456 kPa (2.56 ∼ 4.65 kgf/cm², 36
∼ 66 psi) @380 r/min (rpm)

The following table should be consulted if the obtainable compression reading is not within the usable
range.
Problem Diagnosis Remedy (Action)
Carbon accumulation on piston,
cylinder head, and in combustion
chamber possibly due to damaged
valve stem oil seal and/or damaged
piston oil rings (This may be
indicated by white exhaust smoke).
Remove the carbon deposits and replace
damaged parts if necessary.
Incorrect cylinder head gasket
thickness
Replace the gasket with a standard part.
Damaged or missing compression
release cam spring
Replace the spring.
Cylinder
compression
is higher than
usable range.
Compression release weights do
not move smoothly.
Replace the compression release unit.
Gas leakage around cylinder head Replace damaged gasket and check
cylinder head warp.
Bad condition of valve seating Repair if necessary.
Incorrect valve clearance Adjust the valve clearance.
Incorrect piston/cylinder clearance Replace the piston and/or cylinder.
Piston seizure Inspect the cylinder and liner and
replace/repair the cylinder and/or piston
as necessary.
Bad condition of piston ring and/or
piston ring grooves
Replace the piston and/or the piston rings.
Cylinder
compression is
lower than usable
range.
Compression release weights do
not move smoothly.
Replace the compression release unit
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