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I was wanting to hear about what the advantages of synthetic or cable on the viper winches are. Also what size (4000,4500, or 5000) should I need for my teryx. Seems like I read on hear before that someones synthetic rope had broke. What do any of you have to say on these issues. I tend to like to try to over size on winches so that I under work the winch than over work the winch but was wondering what the difference would be on the load on the battery due to a larger winch.
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I personally think a 3000lb is enough for a Teryx but in the Viper line I would get the 4500lb since it is the smallest size that has a mechanical brake in it.

I like cable over rope cause the rope seems to get pulled down into itself and gets stuck.

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It really depends on if you are going to use the winch alot and also if you go into the water alot. I have used my Viper 3 times for extractions and I use it every time that I ride to help attach it to the trailer. The cable has kinks in it, but has not frayed yet. My friend had a cable and after 2 years of playing in the water his has frayed and the strength of it has deteriorated enough that it is now broke and in need of replacement.

I bought the cable version and when this one is gone I will change over to the rope style.

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As with anything else everyone has their opinions. After having one with rope I like cable much better. This is why there is 31 flavors at Baskin Robins!!



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Rope is stronger, safer, and if wound properly before use, won't pull down into itself. You need to put tension on the rope and/or cable when winding it in for the first time.

Also, you have less chance of getting hands cut up pulling out rope than cable.

I have used Amsteel blue rope for years in rockcrawling and would never go back to cable on any winch. All competitive organizations that I am aware of, require rope.
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The rope is also safer if broken, unlike the cable that will come flying back with blood thirsty frays looking to impale anyone stand near the cable. Oh sure, the proper way to winch is to lay something heavy on to the cable to help prevent this from happening, but how many of us really do that? The rope does not store the pent up energy and will just fall to the ground when it does break.

There is nothing like a cable that did not wind correctly and has pulled itself down into the wraps and is fighting to stay there while you are yanking and tugging to free it.

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Well cable is cheaper!! LOL

Since I sell both, get the rope cost more!!!



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3000 isnt enough for a sxs...i had a 06 arctic cat prowler 650 xt and i bought a new warn 3000 winch and installed it....anyways for a test i rolled the cable out to about 40 ft and hooked it to a tree.with me sitting in the prowler and holding the brakes....and trying to winch the utv towards the tree ...it pulled it about 3 ft and then the winch stopped and wouldnt pull any further.and this was on a gravel driveway.i was very let down about so i sold it and bought a milemarker 4500 and installed it and repeated the same test.this time it would pull the utv all the way to the tree without a problem.and even with a passenger.and the milemarker 4500 winch also had 80 ft of cable and pulled so much faster than a warn.i wished there was room enough for a pe4500 on the teryx but the radiator is too close.
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I like the rope, that's what we have. I got it 'cause I figured it would be lighter & like the fact it's much safer if it breaks than the wire cable.

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We see most people go with a 4000# or bigger for SXS's. I think the cable depends on what you will be doing. Let me know if you have any specific questions.
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