DASARACING MSD testing and more - Kawasaki Teryx Forums: Kawasaki UTV Teryx Forum
Kawasaki Teryx Performance Discussions Kawasaki Teryx performance discussions.
Engine mods, CDI boxes, exhausts, etc.

User Tag List

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
post #1 of 22 (permalink) Old 01-16-2010, 02:41 PM Thread Starter
Senior Member
 
DASARACING's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: California
Posts: 983
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
 
DASARACING MSD testing and more

FUELATV and i went out to dos some baseline testing today. We setup cones and did some timed runs and checked top speeds. We did three runs for each test then took the average. All speeds are speedo speeds. Here is what we found today.

STOCK 2010 Teryx
51 MPH top speed ......... 7200 RPM
200ft time - 37 MPH @ 6.10 sec
400ft times - 45 MPH @ 9.62 sec
700ft times - 49 MPH @ 14.39 sec

added MSD on advance map 3 and fuel map 4
58 MPH top speed ....... 8300 RPM
200ft time - 38 MPH @ 6.02 sec
400ft times - 46 MPH @ 9.51 sec
700ft times - 51 MPH @ 14.20 sec

added DASARACING over drive clutch cover
60 MPH ........ 7400 RPM ....... all 200,400 and 700 ft times were the same as above.

Here is the big issue ....... YES ... the over drive cover only gained 2mph on top end ...... BUT ... it dropped the max RPM by 1000 and still went faster. Without the overdrive cover the stock car is REVING OUT BIG TIME at 58MPH and at 8300 RPM. With the over drive cover installed it is crusing at 60 and not reving out hard at 7400 RPM. You wont want to drive your teryx around at 58MPH spinning 8300 RPM for very long. By adding the over drive cover you will gain 2 MPH and drop the RPM's down to 7400. Once we add pipes, intake and throttle bodies this car will rev out higher then the 7400 and gain some more top speed. Our 840's with the same setups are hitting 70+ MPH. More testing to come very soon. ......... all other clutch parts were STOCK.
DASARACING is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
post #2 of 22 (permalink) Old 01-16-2010, 02:51 PM
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2008
Posts: 3,999
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
 
Good info Steve

How did you have timing on one map and fuel on another?



Hunterworks is offline  
post #3 of 22 (permalink) Old 01-16-2010, 04:05 PM Thread Starter
Senior Member
 
DASARACING's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: California
Posts: 983
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hunterworks View Post
Good info Steve
Thanks

Quote:
Originally Posted by Hunterworks View Post
How did you have timing on one map and fuel on another?
copy and paste .....

DASA RACING WORLD CHAMPIONSHIP WINNING MOTORS AND SERVICE
DASARACING is offline  
 
post #4 of 22 (permalink) Old 01-16-2010, 05:03 PM
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2008
Posts: 3,999
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by DASARACING View Post
So you meant timing curve off of three pasted on four?

What you typed says you had the timing on curve three and the fuel on curve four.

Just trying to figure out, thought you might have found something out I should know.



Hunterworks is offline  
post #5 of 22 (permalink) Old 01-16-2010, 06:32 PM
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Posts: 339
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hunterworks View Post
So you meant timing curve off of three pasted on four?
That is correct.

Since map three cannot be adjusted I copied the timing advance from the stock MSD map three and paste it into the timing advance on map 4. This is what we felt would be the best combo since we could only adjust the rev limit and MPH limit on map 4 or higher and not map 3.


Hunterworks, keep in mind when you load a new map you are actually loading it for all tunes not just the tune you are on. The copy and paste buttons become very usefull when building multiple maps into one MSD unit. The wording MSD is using in the operation guide is a little disceaving.
FUELATV is offline  
post #6 of 22 (permalink) Old 01-16-2010, 07:02 PM
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2008
Posts: 3,999
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by FUELATV View Post


Hunterworks, keep in mind when you load a new map you are actually loading it for all tunes not just the tune you are on. The copy and paste buttons become very usefull when building multiple maps into one MSD unit. The wording MSD is using in the operation guide is a little disceaving.
Well aware of this, was just thinking you guys figured out a way to use the timing in one curve and fuel in another.

Thanks for clearing it up.

FuelATV, you better post up from now on, Steve confuses me and that is easy to do!!



Hunterworks is offline  
post #7 of 22 (permalink) Old 01-16-2010, 07:15 PM Thread Starter
Senior Member
 
DASARACING's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: California
Posts: 983
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hunterworks View Post
Well aware of this, was just thinking you guys figured out a way to use the timing in one curve and fuel in another.!!
WE DID ........ COPY AND PASTE ...... When i was looking at all of the ignition curves i liked the ignition curve on map 3 best.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Hunterworks View Post
FuelATV, you better post up from now on, Steve confuses me and that is easy to do!!
The problem is that when i say map3 ignition curve alot of people have no clue what i am saying as it is labled advance on msd.

DASA RACING WORLD CHAMPIONSHIP WINNING MOTORS AND SERVICE
DASARACING is offline  
post #8 of 22 (permalink) Old 01-16-2010, 07:33 PM
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2008
Posts: 3,999
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
 
Steve, I totally understand but the way you wrote it I thought you were saying you were using curve 3 timing and curve 4 fuel at the same time not taking curve three and pasting in curve four.

I thought you guys figured out a new way to use the software



Hunterworks is offline  
post #9 of 22 (permalink) Old 01-17-2010, 08:26 AM Thread Starter
Senior Member
 
DASARACING's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: California
Posts: 983
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
 
Our next test ww will run will be with dasa pipes installed ..........

DASA RACING WORLD CHAMPIONSHIP WINNING MOTORS AND SERVICE
DASARACING is offline  
post #10 of 22 (permalink) Old 01-17-2010, 09:06 AM
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Posts: 301
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by DASARACING View Post
FUELATV and i went out to dos some baseline testing today. We setup cones and did some timed runs and checked top speeds. We did three runs for each test then took the average. All speeds are speedo speeds. Here is what we found today.

STOCK 2010 Teryx
51 MPH top speed ......... 7200 RPM
200ft time - 37 MPH @ 6.10 sec
400ft times - 45 MPH @ 9.62 sec
700ft times - 49 MPH @ 14.39 sec

added MSD on advance map 3 and fuel map 4
58 MPH top speed ....... 8300 RPM
200ft time - 38 MPH @ 6.02 sec
400ft times - 46 MPH @ 9.51 sec
700ft times - 51 MPH @ 14.20 sec

added DASARACING over drive clutch cover
60 MPH ........ 7400 RPM ....... all 200,400 and 700 ft times were the same as above.

Here is the big issue ....... YES ... the over drive cover only gained 2mph on top end ...... BUT ... it dropped the max RPM by 1000 and still went faster. Without the overdrive cover the stock car is REVING OUT BIG TIME at 58MPH and at 8300 RPM. With the over drive cover installed it is crusing at 60 and not reving out hard at 7400 RPM. You wont want to drive your teryx around at 58MPH spinning 8300 RPM for very long. By adding the over drive cover you will gain 2 MPH and drop the RPM's down to 7400. Once we add pipes, intake and throttle bodies this car will rev out higher then the 7400 and gain some more top speed. Our 840's with the same setups are hitting 70+ MPH. More testing to come very soon. ......... all other clutch parts were STOCK.
I've said this in an earlier post spacing the clutch cover away from the spider(or using a clutch cap) does more than just top speed it also adds more gearing through the shifting phase... The reason it was revving so high is because it ran out of gearing through the clutch so all it can do then is over-rev for more top end.
Shan is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
Reply

Bookmarks

Quick Reply
Message:
Options

Register Now



In order to be able to post messages on the Kawasaki Teryx Forums: Kawasaki UTV Teryx Forum forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name, your email address and other required details in the form below.

User Name:
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.

Password:


Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.

Email Address:
OR

Log-in










Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Show Printable Version
Email this Page Email this Page
Display Modes
Linear Mode Linear Mode



Posting Rules  
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On

 
For the best viewing experience please update your browser to Google Chrome
 


1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 48 49 50 51 52 53 54 55 56 57 58 59 60 61 62 63 64 65 66 67 68 69 70 71 72 73 74 75 76 77 78 79 80 81 82 83 84 85 86 87 88